The World Thru My Eyes - I speak my mind and man does it like to talk.
Published on August 20, 2007 By CharlesCS In Politics
I am always curious about those people who read statistics about how people’s dept are at an all time high and stuff but never really bother to learn from personal experience and/or talk to those the statistics speak of. Well get ready cause I’m gonna give it to you the way it is, for me anyways. Chances are this is a very common scenario amongst people in similar situations as mine.

My credit began to spiral downward the day I got my first credit cards when I was 18 years old. One was a JC Pennys card, a Sears card and an electronic store card (can’t remember the name). You would think a smart kid would use the cards only when necessary for necessities and maybe a few wants so long as he/she can make the monthly payments. Not me, I went on a shopping spree and not just necessities. I also got myself a lot of unnecessary wants such as a leather jacket, a tent and several other goodies. But this was just the beginning. Not only was I maxing out my cards with unnecessary, expensive stuff, I was not sending in payments. First I sent a few on time, then I began to fall behind. Eventually I just didn’t send any at all. It eventually made it to the collection agencies and then began the calls and letters. Keep in mind that up till now I have completely responsible for the chaos I had created and the ripple effect it would have in my future.

As time when by I just got another card from somewhere else, but then eventually I couldn’t get anymore. Then I started with bills such as electrical, phone, cable and even the rent. Time and time again I would connect and disconnect services that I knew I couldn’t afford but would get them anyways and would then just continue to fill my bad credit list. Always asking for money from family members to keep up cause I did not learn to balance my budget and control my spending. When it wasn’t Burger King, it was KFC or Chinese food. Keep in mind I have a family by this time and they are suffering my ignorance at this point. Blockbuster’s profits were probably my doing due to the constant super late late-fee’s they would charge for the several days I was late. This trend continued year after year. I eventually found myself over drafting my bank account every week to keep up with bills, food for the house and our constant need for entertainment (I know, shame on me). During most of this time I had great jobs with great pays but even then it just wasn’t enough. My terrible waste of money was out of control and I was just too ignorant to the consequences of my actions in the future. I eventually lost my highest paying job where I worked with my brother. He was the President of the company. I had a really serious problem with him and ended up having to leave (or fired, we never really figured it out).

After a month of loathing over myself I made the decision to move to Puerto Rico hoping to give myself and my family a new start. That was not the best idea I had had. Puerto Rico was much harder to survive than the states and for 2 years I learned to deal with even less of the luxuries we take for granted here in the States such as a car, big supermarkets, variety of food, theaters, Blockbusters. Most of this stuff was either to expensive for my wage or were too far away since I lived in a small town no less than 30 minutes away from the city scene. I couldn’t take it anymore and decided to return back to the States where I could deal with life better. I had changed a bit and decided that this time around I would do better.

While I am no where near the opposite of my past life, I am heading in the right direction. I am learning to deal with bills, rent and everyday things. I have a great job with decent pay for a guy with no college under his belt. I plan to go to school to study computers which my job will pay for. Another new thing is my wife is working, something I chose to not let her do before because of the kids. Now it’s different and I just can’t do it alone anymore. I had a part time as well (first time doing 2 jobs, 15 hours a day) I don’t have it anymore but if I need it I can always get it again. I needed to spend more time with my kids who were beginning to lose focus in school due to my constant absence in their life because of my 2 jobs.

My bad credit still haunts me till this day but am working to fix it. I won’t give up till I have more money than I owe. Till I have the house of my dreams. My point? I am completely responsible for my bad decisions that lead me to where I am today. I could have gone to college, I could have worked 2 jobs, I could have learned to balance my budget, all in all I could have made a better effort to become a better person. I should have been more careful having 2 kids during a time I was acting the fool. In no way I blame the Gov’t for my mistakes, I only have myself to blame. By the same token every citizen in this country that is capable of making a better life for themselves but find themselves in situations similar or worse than mine are responsible for their own lives. There are enough Gov’t programs out there to give you a new start, to point you in the right direction, to help you stand up and try again. There are several charities that due the same. Things are expensive? Learn to manage your money better, learn to conserve, learn to make your own food if necessary. What ever it takes it about learning to survive on your own.

As bad as things may have seemed to me, they were not as bad as I thought and could have been avoided by simply trying or trying harder. It could be said the same for many others. Not only am I proof of it, but having been in it for so many years one usually ends up relating to those in similar situations and become witnesses of each other.

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on Aug 20, 2007
Will look into it. Thanks for the suggestion. I am currently reading Bernard Goldberg's Crazies to the left of me, wimps to the right and have Bill O'Reilly's Culture Warrior on stand by. These would be my first books ever that I would have read in their entireties.


Let me know how Bernard's book is, I was interested in reading it.




on Aug 20, 2007
then save $1,000 in the bank for emergencies so you won't use debt when one hits(really helpful to sell things for that purpose).


My dad offered a great idea. I should save 3 months my average bills (rent, light, water, food, car, etc., the basics). That way in case anything happens, such as job loss, I have 3 months to solve my problems.

on Aug 20, 2007
Dave Ramsey said to wait to do that until you're free from all the debt, except a mortgage. The $1,000 is good enough for most things that'll happen, like the car or something. If you lose your job, you're out of luck but if you lose your job you have more to worry about than just being debt free... like feeding your family.
on Aug 20, 2007
I wll look into it. Again, thanks.
on Aug 20, 2007
Just validating your father's idea as being good enough for a financial expert to pass on, heh.
on Aug 21, 2007
Just validating your father's idea as being good enough for a financial expert to pass on, heh.


Trust me when I say that my dad is a pro. I however never gained that knowledge from him. He was never broke, but then he could do what I couldn't, take advantage of peoples ignorance to make a buck. I have to much of a heart and sometimes I think I will always get by as oppose to surpass people financially, because I'm not willing to step over others to move up. But the reality is I may to in order to survive.
on Aug 21, 2007
I'm not MM, but I'll tell you it's a perfectly awful idea, and here's why.

Most credit cards won't charge you interest if you pay off the entire balance each month, so that really doesn't come in to play in the above scenario--IF you never, EVER, let a balance carry over.

With your track record, and your tendency to succumb to tempation, how long would it be before you start leaving a little balance here, a little balance there..."I can get chinese food if I only pay $60 on the electric bill instead of $79, what's $19 bucks? I can make that up next month."

It's too easy to get behind, too tempting to let those balances ride and spend the cash on something else, and sooner or later you find yourself in DEBT over everyday recurring expenses! Trust me, the odds always favor the house, the credit card companies are COUNTING on this, and it's so common that the various 'rewards' they offer don't end up costing them a dime because all they REALLY do is encourage you to rack up increasing amounts of debt.


I agree completely. Not only is this "a perfectly awful idea", it's insane. Just as you explained, it could lead to ending back where one started, in debt.


For someone just starting to clean up their credit (like yourself) one very practical thing you can do is view your own credit report regularly. Sign up for one of those monitoring services, and make sure you get one that includes your FICO score. I use this one WWW Linkand it's the best $13.00 I spend every month.

This allows you to keep an eye on things, and contains excellent information in regards to finding old creditors so you can pay them off and get these collections removed from your report. Sometimes you can even negotiate a partial payment that will satisfy the debt if it's *really* old.

It's also got a 'scenario generator' which allows you to play the 'what if?' game with your finances to see how various actions will affect your credit score, ie: "What if I pay off this or that debt" or "What if I just make all my payments on time for the next year?" This will help you identify the most positive actions you can take at any given time and help you set goals.

Avoid temptation! If you start recieving 'prescreened' or 'preapproved' credit card offers, or catalogues with a pre-approved spending limit, destroy them immediately (use a shredder) and add your name to the Opt-out lists so you don't recieve these offers in the future.WWW Link

These offers are never very good, their interest rates are astronomical and so are their yearly/monthly fees. Haha, I got one offer for a credit card with a $200 limit on it, but the one-time 'processing fee' was something like $99 and the yearly fee was $79.00 and then there was a montly service charge of about $6.00, all at the low, low rate of 24.99% APR! I almost framed that sucker, it was such a bad offer.

Stay away from crap like this, destroy it before opening! The most attractive cards don't need to send out mass mailers to bad credit risks, and any company that does is going to cause you more trouble than that little bit of credit is worth.

Good luck on turning it all around. Be patient, it may take years, but I promise you'll find the struggle worth it in the long run.


Thanks for the links. You really are a well informed person. Its just the information I was looking for. I know it will take years but considering the time I have already wasted I can wait a little longer.
on Aug 21, 2007

I was not a saint with credit cards, but I did have a problem paying them off for a long time.  Then the government removed the interest deduction, and my wife went crazy wth them, and I lost my job.  Since then, I always have.  MM is pretty close in his recommendation.  BUT, you do have to know you have the money to pay it off, and the will power.

I write maybe 6 checks a month now.  Everythign else goes on the credit cards.  Because I do pay them off (and it is easier for them to do the accounting than me).  But if there is even a hint of a doubt of paying them off, only put on them the barest minimum.

I have not carried a balance in 15 years.  And I am not about to start.  Good luck with your AA for CC.

on Aug 22, 2007
Let me know how Bernard's book is, I was interested in reading it.


Will do, am only half way on it and based on how you reply on this site, I'd say you're gonna love this book.
on Aug 22, 2007

I haven't read all responses so if this is repeat...sorry.

IMHO Credit is a slave collar.  Just like cigarettes come with a warning label...so should credit cards.  When I stand in line at the store and watch people I know pay for things on credit they can't afford...or can only barely afford min payments (talking friends I know well here)...I can hear the slave collar clicking around their necks.

I teach my kids credit cards are a trick...a trick to steal your money (the interest rates alone on some cards are staggering).  And I believe living within our means is important, and provides proper motivation to do better, earn more, whatever.

Actually you know you're doing well when you have a crappy credit score (but not from failure to pay).  Credit scores come from BORROWING money.  If you pay everything off and never borrow again, your credit score will eventually suck.  Heh.

Dave Ramsey, a multi millionaire, says his credit score is horrible.  Why?  He doesn't borrow.  Ever.  You may want to check out his website...daveramsey.com.  He has good advice on how to negotiate with credit card companies and banks...sometimes they will take something and close the account, rather than nothing.

It's good you realized this Charles.  Some people go their whole lives and never get a clue.

Good luck with it.

on Aug 22, 2007
Ooo, he has a website too! I should check that out. Maybe it will help me get back on track.
on Aug 22, 2007
I teach my kids credit cards are a trick...a trick to steal your money (the interest rates alone on some cards are staggering). And I believe living within our means is important, and provides proper motivation to do better, earn more, whatever.


I think more important than credit cards being a trick, is the trick to using credit cards themselves. Quite simply, never put more on them then you can pay off on time.

Used properly, credit cards are a great tool. They help you build credit, which can make a big difference on loan and payment options when you go to purchase, say, your first house. They can provide nice little awards and bonuses just for their use. As a college student, I have payments including tuition, rent, utilities and other bills, food, etc. I use my credit card for everything, and I pay it off on time. Paying for everything is a struggle, credit card or no, and I will have loans to pay off, but just using a credit card responsibly allowed me to travel Europe for three weeks last spring basically free (using airmiles to travel and book hotels).

You have to know your limit, and some people know they need to stay away, but for a responsible user credit cards are a great tool.
on Aug 22, 2007
100% down will get you a nice discount on pretty much any house.

Credit cards are certainly a trap, but you need them for some things, mostly rentals like movies or cars. They wouldn't let us rent a car without a credit card. Pah.
on Aug 22, 2007
They wouldn't let us rent a car without a credit card. Pah.


You need to come to Miami then. There are a few places here who will rent cars without credit cards and blockbuster will take a phone bill if you don't have a credit car. They all want to make money and they will do what they have to do to get the money from those who don't have credit cards as well. Of course they will probably be more expensive.
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