Sure you are. That's the first step toward healing, congratulations.

As long as you actually realised that you pulled that out of your ass, we can go on with a nice conversation.

Well, since most of the beef you had about Iran was about their president's declarations, I think changing president might actually help the matter. But it's just me, you know. I'm just a naive Canadian. You must know way better with that pile of PhD coming out of your ass.

Seems to be your excuse for every anti-Obama attack these days: 'oh, some unnamed person who isn't even here criticised bush, and it may have been unfairly, so that's going to be my justification for doing the same thing to Obama'.

Either way though, it does make you a hypocrite if you complain about people having done that to Bush, and then go and do the same thing to Obama.

I didn't take it that way. You do realize that my comment you quoted was to another member, and not you Dr.? Only the first half was a response to your post.

 Actually the beef I have with Iran is the weapons they send to kill US troops, the terrorist and militant groups. Nothing wrong with being a naive Canadian, there are plenty of them, but I'll go out on a limb here and say since you let your fellow countrymen fight on your behalf and have zero combat experiance yourself, you're in probably in over your head. At least that's what I gather from your reponses

That is a very good beef to have, I have to agree 100% with you. But these consequence COULD (I do not say they WOULD, just that it was a possibility) have been averted if Bush actually had been more receptive to Iran's call for diplomacy in 2003.

He didn't, and thus Iran have done the logical strategic choice: support a faction that were ideologically aligned on them, and prevent the US's influence in the region. It ain't a good thing it itself (it's rather a bad thing), but I think most of the countries that went in Iraq (either with or without the Coalition) got dirty in the process.

And then again, I don't think bombing Iran to smittereen like you advocate will actually stop the influx of weapons and guerilla fighters, or help protect the American soldiers in Iraq more. Nor the soldiers fighting in Afghanistan, for that matter.

I really don't see how trying diplomacy will weaken the United States. You still have air superiority and godly nuclear power to launch on them in the case they actually try anything direct.

Close ennough. I actually support our troops in Afghanistan, and so I let my fellow countrymen fight and die on YOUR (U.S.A.) behalf (because I do think removing the Talibans was/is a worthy cause for YOUR interest/protection), which allowed them to get a bucket of insult on Fox Channel in return. You are welcomed America.

Sorry, CharlesCS...I didn't realize that...

BTW...something interesting on the topic today at Ynet... LINK

You know, up until now, the conversation had been kept somewhat mature. I notice how people like you can't avoid using nasty words and insults when you can't seem to get people to see things your way. I won't deny I call names from time to time, but I usually start right off the back. Either way your comment made no point, last I checked the US has not promised to destroy an entire culture, the Iranian President however.

Excuse? You mean reality. Obama has made mistake after mistake from day one but God forbid anyone point them out. Obama should be given at least 4 years before anyone says anything, right? I'll never understand why anyone would simply dismiss the mistakes a person does just because you like them. If you people don't care about what your dream boy does wrong, then you will have to live with his mistakes. Thank you for being so selfish and not thinking about the rest of us.

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Interesting story. Of course if one is smart enough, one would not want to actually have the US take action before you accomplish your mission. That doesn't mean they will stop, they will simply use our "ignorance" against us. We are so nice, we try to do things the right way, during this the enemy continues to build taking our kindness as weakness knowing we won't do anything at first.

Indeed. Bad harsh language. But I'd say the USA are ahead of Iran when it comes to exterminating a people, so they have little lessons to give in that regard. Native Americans and Phillipinos could give testimony in that regard.

I repeat my previous statement: You are ready to bomb a whole country and destabilise the whole region based on political posturing against a long-lasting ennemy. Hell, you are less critical of Israel, who actually have directly bombed civilians.

I am not saying that Iran is blameless or without faults. Just that you seem to be quick to shove away any attempt that won't end in blood.

I said you were hypocrit, because you reacted badly at someone's mention that you were bloodthirsty, but not 2 lines later, you accused of Iran's President of being as bad as Stalin or Hitler, while having no actual fact to support that. You acted the exact same way than the person who called you bloodthirsty: just because someone is on the other side of the argument (be it a debate on a forum or something as important as Israel's legitimacy or right to exist) doesn't make him a monster.

Very generous of YOU to offer up their service. My thanks to Canada for honoring its NATO responsibilities, and my heartfelt gratitude to the Canadian men and women in uniform. To the Canadian defeatists, enemy sympathizers, and appeasers the same scorn and contempt as I give your many counterparts here in the US, applies to you as well.

Yes interesting, but not very comforting.

Charles... and we wonder why diplomacy (communication) often fails.   

I don't. I just vote for keeping them there and helping their funding, they do the best job they can, and from what I heard, they aren't bad at it. Off course, they also have the highest death per capita of the whole Theater.

Would be great if your country actually seemed to notice. Along with Netherland and U.K., not many country actually accepted to take risks in this mission.

Ah, well, you may call me a defeatist, that's kinda funny. If you want to paint everything black and white, without actually understanding the shades present, I guess it's your loss. Bush Doctrine all the way, eh?

Yea, I'm sure they were going around claiming to want to destroy every culture in their past as well. But I take it you are not one of those who believes in learning from the past. Instead we should allow things to happen and then try to stop them.

LOL, I guess the people of Israel are just bored and are looking to do something with those weapons that are getting old. Never mind that rockets that are shot at their cities constantly right Cikomyr? It's amazing how some people use the "selective hearing" feature built into all humans.

Dude, get a clue. We did not start peace talks with Iran the day Obama sent the video. Of course you would rather try for 50 years just to make sure it's not working. God, why do people dismiss things so easily and act as if they never existed?

Of course not. How could I, any notion of facts will simply be ignored just like you have so many other things. The truth is Cikomyr is that there is no real point in debating with a person who picks and choses what fatcs to leave out and what facts to use. Ignoring reality to make a point is a half baked argument. But if that's what you want, so be it.

I didn't call you anything, I made a statement...why do feel the term fits you?

Imagine that a Canadian giving Americans a history lesson on killing native Americans! Why don't you give Canada back to its indigenous people? Or are you suggesting Canadians just found the place empty eh? They are the same talking points all enemies of the US tell their kids in schools. The only difference between the US an most every other country on the face of the planet is that they recorded their history in its entirety, unlike most of the rest of world that hides their less than glorious pasts. Get real and stop believing your own propaganda.