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I received a email from my boss yesterday that he got from a friend and was a very interesting read. Like me, my boss is a Conservative and found this to be very entertaining:

McCain vs.
Obama
Current mood: contemplative
Category: News and Politics

ALL OF THIS CAN BE VERIFIED>>>>>SEE BOTTOM FOR INFO!!!


SIMPLE MATH:

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS

ISSUE JOHN McCAIN Vs OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US
Yes JOHN McCAIN
No OBAMA

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
Yes JOHN McCAIN
No OBAMA


Served in the US Armed Forces
Yes JOHN McCAIN
No OBAMA

Amount of time served in the US Senate
22 YEARS JOHN McCAIN
173 DAYS OBAMA

Will institute a socialized national health care plan
No JOHN McCAIN
Yes OBAMA

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
No JOHN McCAIN
Yes OBAMA

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
No JOHN McCAIN
Yes OBAMA

Supports gun ownership rights
Yes JOHN McCAIN
No OBAMA

Supports homosexual marriage
No JOHN McCAIN
Yes BARAK OBAMA

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
No JOHN McCAIN
Yes OBAMA

Voted against making English the official language
No JOHN McCAIN
Yes OBAMA

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
No JOHN McCAIN
Yes OBAMA

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.


OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.
)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
')

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN

(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax

Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.


NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!



You can verify the above at the following web sites:


http://money. cnn. com/news/specials/election/2008/index. html

http://www. cnn. com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues. taxes. html

http://elections. foxnews. com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin. aarp. org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes. html
http://blog. washingtonpost. com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/

http://blog. washingtonpost. com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/



Comments
on Sep 05, 2008

I just dont trust McCain NOT to raise taxes.

on Sep 05, 2008

I just dont trust McCain NOT to raise taxes.

on Sep 05, 2008

I think putting their stances in quantifiable measures makes the vote clear.

on Sep 05, 2008

McCain vs. Obama Current mood: contemplative Category: News and Politics

Was this copied from someone's Livejournal?  Hehe.

~Zoo

on Sep 06, 2008

You can verify the above at the following web sites

I think putting their stances in quantifiable measures makes the vote clear

Unfortunately many of your points are misleading or altered to be sensationalist:

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy

So are you saying McCain wouldn't support an abortion if the mothers life was in severe risk? Or are you saying Obama would support an abortion at 8 1/2 months for no other reason than that the mother doesn't want to have to give birth? You need to specify if you're purporting to allow a clear comparison between the two.

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately

2 problems here. "troops" - are we talking all troops, or some? Obama did clarify his comments afterall to add in the provision for leaving some troops behind. Meanwhile immediately - you mean the instant Obama is elected troops will be pulled out?

Will institute a socialized national health care plan

care to clarify what socialized is, or was it just stuck in there again to sensationalise the issue? A bit like saying 'candidate A supports X. I'll state "Candidate A supports extreme liberal proposal X"'.

Supports gun ownership rights

Less of an issue with this one, but is Obama saying no-one should be allowed to own a gun? Or that there are situations where you should be able to? Since you fail to specify what these rights specifically are (e.g. supporting the right of people to own guns for the purposes of hunting is technically supporting gun ownership rights, even if you also believe people more generally shouldn't be allowed to own guns for the purposes of protecting themselves/home/other)

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase

Big problem here, you've inserted the word "huge". Not a fact, but sensationalist, and subjective. Depending on how you look at it, both McCain and Obama are actually proposing tax cuts, Obama's aren't as extensive as McCains though. Therefore to say his programs will mean a tax increase is again highly debatable (if you're talking about a particular group, you need to specify this, e.g. 'proposed programs will mean on average a x% increase for people earning x amount per year', or 'proposed programs will mean people earning over x face tax increase compared to other candidate').

I'm also curious to know where the figures for tax paid on dif incomes were obtained from, since the last report I looked at recently (which was to be used by an international tax company whose job was to look at the tax implications to advise clients, and hence would need to be reliable+not be politically influenced) basically said that (personal) taxes would be roughly similar with Obama+McCain except for higher rate taxpayers who would face a steep increase in the proportion of income they'd be paying in taxes.

 


Having a look through your links given to back up your claims (you didn't say which ones), I thought I'd focus on the tax issue since I knew that to be highly questionable. From cnn money (one of the links you provided), you're given a rough projection of taxes as follows:
0-112k: Obama taxes less than McCain

112k+ Obama taxes more than McCain

Basically in line with what I recall seeing - Obama focuses on raising taxes on high incomes and lowering them on lower incomes. Your bulletin.aarp also backs this up as well (both are referencing to the same report). So unless I've missed something obvious here, you've provided links that at worst completely contradict what you put on taxes, and at best simply point to how misleading your 'statement' is (i.e. if it turns out that a very small demographic within an income group ends up worse rather than better while the others in that group end up better, and then using that small demographic to implicitely give the impression that everyone in that demographic suffers those negative effects).

Anyway I don't have the time to go through each and every other statement so I'll restrict myself to just pointing out how many of them are biased in phrasing, and leave it to someone else to check if they want to.

on Sep 07, 2008

I think I've seen this before.  It's been emailed around, and like most of these incessant forwards, is not entirely accurate.  The earlier, simpler stuff is more accurate, although the one about how long they have searved is not correct.  (That's the amount of time Obama served when he wasn't running for President, rather than the full amount of time in the Senate.  While this is significant I think, it still should not be presented as a different fact than what it is.)


The long and short of it is, never, ever, ever trust anything passed onto you by email that was not composed directly from them.  You never know whose been editing these things, how carefully they checked the facts, which is usually not very.