The World Thru My Eyes - I speak my mind and man does it like to talk.

Call me ignorant, but I can only educate myself by asking questions of which I have no answers to. Can someone please explain to me, in the most easiest way possible to explain, why is it that I can do my taxes on, say, turbotax.com or H&RBlock.com and not pay a penny for my refund, yet every local tax return business (H&R Block, Liberty Tax, Jackson Hewitt) wants to charge an average of $250 to file your tax return?

Why such a discrepancy? How are they in business? Why do people go to them?

As a side joke, should we trust these sites or software ever again considering our current Secretary of Treasury used them and blames them for his tax problems (cheating)?


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on Mar 16, 2009

Why such a discrepancy? How are they in business? Why do people go to them?

Well, if you do your taxes and make a mistake, it's your problem.  If the tax place makes a mistake (assuming you provided all the correct documentation) then it's their problem.  You basically pay so that they have the responsibility.

on Mar 16, 2009

Well, if you do your taxes and make a mistake, it's your problem. If the tax place makes a mistake (assuming you provided all the correct documentation) then it's their problem. You basically pay so that they have the responsibility.

I guess that makes sense, but $250 difference? I have done it at these places before looking for next day money before and could understand the large payments for the service. But to simply fill out my taxes? That seems exagerated and the excuse they give me is the amount of pages they have to print.

on Mar 16, 2009

Same reason that bloodwork for a dog cost 80% less than the same bloodwork for a human- it's all how much it would cost if you get sued.  $250 isn't much when you figure in liability along with the time it takes somebody to actually process the return.

on Mar 16, 2009

Same reason that bloodwork for a dog cost 80% less than the same bloodwork for a human- it's all how much it would cost if you get sued. $250 isn't much when you figure in liability along with the time it takes somebody to actually process the return.

Sometimes things are not so obvious to some of us. I still think $250 is outrageous, but it makes sense.

on Mar 16, 2009

The other service you gain is being interviewd by somone who is supposed to know all the right questions to ask. I have used the online services every year except one since I was no longer a part of the LLC we had. The one year I had someone else do my taxes, I got back a little more than what I could have figured out online. It barely covered the fees.

Pay the bucks to have someone do it if you have reasons to itemize your deductions. If you are taking the standard deduction, it's just not worth the cost. 

on Mar 16, 2009

Pay the bucks to have someone do it if you have reasons to itemize your deductions. If you are taking the standard deduction, it's just not worth the cost.

That is definitely good advise.

on Mar 16, 2009

Why such a discrepancy? How are they in business? Why do people go to them?

I see it much the same as realtors- if you decide to sell your house on your own (or on the internet as has become popular recently) you can win big time in that you get to keep the percentage of the sale that would otherwise go to the realtor.

The downside of this is

1) Time- you have to do all the legwork yourself. If your situation is straightforward and simple, and you understand what you're doing, you're definitely better off  on doing it on your own. If you don't have the time and don't know the first thing about selling a house, you're probably better off going with a realtor... unless you want to take the time to familiarize yourself with the ins and outs, which again, means more time before you can sell.

2) Complexity- this ties into # 1. If the issue is straightforward, do it yourself is no problem. If you've got lots of  investments, RRSP's and tax-deductibles you want to go through someone who knows the system so that you don't end up burning yourself.

I suppose this relates to anything in life- ie;

Represent yourself in court or pay a lawyer?

Fix your car (if you know what you're doing and it's a straightforward job) or take it to a mechanic? (and run the risk of being taken to the cleaners)

Same goes for selling a house, same goes for doing your taxes.

No matter which way you cut it Charles, however, one thing generally holds true. Our society is built upon the feller with specialized knowledge squeezing the fella without that knowledge for pennies. I'm not saying it's a good or a bad thing, but just the way things have hashed out in the end.

I don't know about you, but I've yet to find a dentists office that's not luxurious and well-appointed!

on Mar 16, 2009

I don't know about you, but I've yet to find a dentists office that's not luxurious and well-appointed!

on Mar 17, 2009

Charles a lot of it is just plain laziness and greed. The forms are scary and can be confusing to a culture that seems to be reading less (entertainment excluded). It's too hard for them. Others think that somehow they will get a lot more back (and can be true in some cases) than if they did it themselves.

What gets me is the folks (about 40%) that are going to get every penny they paid in back. Why do they bother to pay for this service? Back to my first point, laziness. When I was in the military I would help my guys do it themselves, instead of paying someone. You'd be surprised how many single folks without deductions thought they needed to pay to have someone do their EZ form!

I use Turbo Tax now, since 1999, mostly to keep track of my IRA basis, but also because I can pull up a nice .pdf of any year I filed in 2 minutes. This came in handy recently for a security clearance and the wifes immigration forms. If I come up agaist a tax issue I am unsure of, I research it myself.

on Mar 18, 2009

I use Turbo Tax now, since 1999, mostly to keep track of my IRA basis, but also because I can pull up a nice .pdf of any year I filed in 2 minutes. This came in handy recently for a security clearance and the wifes immigration forms. If I come up agaist a tax issue I am unsure of, I research it myself.

Same here. I have done the local tax refund people before, but I needed the money ASAP at the time and was willing to pay to get it fast. Of course I learned how idiotic it was to do that and since then don't do it anymore.

on Mar 23, 2009

That's a big part of it too. Folks are willing to pay big for those refund "loans". What a racket they are. If you calculate what you pay to get "your" cash three weeks earlier, the interest rate would be astronomical. I've never needing the money bad enough that I couldn't wait 3 or 4 weeks. Good point Charles.

This was the first year I used e-file (it was free) and I got my refund back in 9 days.