Zelaya violated the constitution? Hmmm.

~Alderic

Chavez, Castro, and Ortega have a true friend in Washington. Viva la Revolution!

One four year term...he wanted more, just like his Latin American comrades.

Mmm, that's what I thought; though I doubt it has to do with leftism or anything that sort, they just have big egos and all.

Be well, ~Alderic

Well apart from socialism, they all have something in common with Obama even if it's not liberalism, complete disregard for the current Constitution and changing it to their liking.

No more takers? The Obama defenders seem to be finding it hard to defend him now, I wonder why?

They are celebrating # 60, Al Franken. The way is clear for them, no need to argue anything. But unlike Bush from 2006 to 2008, everything sit squarely on the Democrats lap. How much damage can they do in two years? Well if the first 5 months are an indicator...plenty. We'll know in 2010 if the folks are happy with their "change".

When it's time for elections, their may be no elections. This hussein guy is a real snake in the grass. I thought Clinton was a lier but he ain't got nothn' on hussein.

All bow to the supreme leader.

Hard to beleive an Idiot like franken could get elected to anything.

Mmm, all politicians have that in common Charles; come on, you're a bright fellow, you should know that. Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Reagan, Carter, etc. They're all fromt he same pot.

You know what's funny, the guy is actually pretty damn smart. Also, who did you re-elect this election? Idiots vote for idiots my friend, its a fact of life.

You know, just as a person interested in politics...this is really fucking annoying. I suddenly feel like I'm on an elementary school play ground and someone is shouting, "Neener neener!"

Be well, ~Alderic

Charles, please explain why exactly Zelaya's actions make him a tyrant.

What happened is that he was going to hold a nation-wide referendum in which everyone would get to VOTE on whether or not a person could run for re-election after serving one whole term.

Even the mighty United States allows a president to run for re-election after serving one term.

Zelaya is the democratically elected president in what ALL observers stated was a free and fair election. The national congress and military had no grounds whatsoever for staging a coup to oust him.

I don't know, I don't recall Bush 1 and Reagan trying to become the supreme leader of this country. Clinton didnt show much of that either even though he did try to make the Gov't bigger and why do you think Bush 2 was disliked? It wasn't for his Conservative views.

Let's face reality here Alderic, Obama has shown time and again that he wants the Gov't to have as much control as possible, he has shown time and again that he favors leaders of countries who either abuse their citizens or attempt to stay in power against the peoples will or the Constitution or constantly insult the US (Zelaya, Ahmadinejad, Castro, Chavez) and he has also shown time and again that he only cares about passing every Democratic policy the Democrats ahve tried to pass before but now have the power to get passed with little if any concern over the effects it will have against an economy that is already hurting.

If you chose to see this as "politics as usual" then I don't understand why Obama won these elections since he was suppose to be change, not more of the same. When you can make sense out of that then we can probably get off Obama's back.

Let's see, he went from comedian who spent most of his time making fun and criticizing Republicans and Conservatives to putting himself in the same position and now having to work together and win over the same people he once made fun of and criticized. Yea, I guess you can say that is pretty damn smart.

I don't get it?

That is a very generalistic comment and it don't make sense. How can Franken be "damn smart" and an idiot at the same time?

I have learned in life that in order to speak to certain people you sometimes have to talk their language. Quite often I come across childish replies on JU, their usually in the politics section, I was simply trying to catch the attention of those who have ignored this article.

This site can sometimes be boring when people are not willing to argue in defense of their beloved President. I am sometimes forced to catch their attention somehow. BTW, when it comes to annoying, I am a Master at it, you may wanna get use to it or avoid me all together, not that I want you to stay away. I enjoy your comments and sometimes find myself agreeing with you.

Simple, his attempt to change something that can not ligally be changed is signs of a person who is looking to contol his country by illegal means. The fact that Chavez is one of his allies makes this even worse. Tyrant may be an exageration but it's this kind of behaviou that leads to tyranny. But that doesnt matter because people never believe these things till it's too late.

What happened was he broke the law as follows:

"One of several clauses that cannot be legally altered in the Honduran constitution limits presidents to a single, 4-year term. Congress claims Zelaya, whose term ends in January, modified the ballot question at the last minute to help him eventually try to seek re-election."

"The Supreme Court, Congress and the military all deemed his planned ballot illegal."

But I guess he did no wrong, right? That's OK, we should continue to support people who do things wrong. But then why did we not support Bush when he passed the Patriot Act or when he did the phone tapping issue or when waterboarding was used. Funny how one person can do things within the laws and be consider a criminal and should be impeached but when someone truly commits a crime, we should back him. Now that is comedy right there.

Yea because our Constitution allows it and it allows it to be changed if necessary. Remember once upon a time there was no such thing as terms.

No grounds? Funny, my post above says otherwise. Can you refute it? If so please do and I will gladly take back my comments.

I would like to see some diversity here given that the majority here are right-wing and/or conservative; it gets dull otherwise. It's also annoying to hear people bash obama constantly. Yeah sure, disagree with him...but sometimes it comes across as no better than what the nuts at DU did to Bush. Then again...yeah, to each their own and free speech. Still though...

Simple, he's smart as a comedian and all, but now that he's a politician....whoops, there goes the brain. Actually that was my cynical side showing, so I guess I should rephrase it as...he seems pretty damn smart. That fit your pocket?

Insanity/Stupidity = doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Article, what article? That's true to an extent. Personally, I'll just talk like I talk. If someone isn't getting it, then that's there loss. (Though, admittedly, it does get to be frustrating when, say I debate religion with KFC or lula. Talk about your merry-go-round)

Come on, you have to give the guy credit, he graduated cum laud from Harvard, with a degree in political science.That's no easy feat. Additionally, who hasn't criticized them? Or the Democrats? Does that really matter? Granted, it doesn't smell right so to speak, but it comes across like saying, "Well you disagreed with them, and that disqualifies you." Hell, you could say then that any and all Americans are in the same category. Right?

Be well, ~Alderic

He still did it, right? No matter what the reason, he did it. Same thing with Obama, the point is he's done things that are questionable.

As for Obama "becoming the supreme leader," puh-lease. That's paranoia talking Charles; same thing as the antichrist and messiah garbage.

He favors ahmadinejad? He favors Castro? He favors Chavez? Okay, maybe chavez. The point being, the way I see it is that he is shedding the whole BS cold war, communism is evil foreign policy. I agree, he shouldn't be soft with them. I want to see him be firm, but willing to work with them - if they'll work with us. I just don't buy the Cuban embargo anymore; Ahmadinejad, sure, I get the deal with him; Chavez? He's a friggin kook and not a threat in my opinion. Honestly, if I was president, I would work with them in effort for them to work with us.

They insult us?   The great and mighty United States of the World?! (M'uh bad, America.) Good gracious, what a tragedy, it isn't like we've earned some of it. Nor is it like we can't shrug it off. When someone insults you, do you always walk up and knock him out? No, not always. We need to get over our arrogance when it comes to the US being insulted.

Yet we elect these people in? Oh look, another democrat....oh look...another republican. Yes, both parties will continue to do the same shit over, and over, and over, and over and...did i mention over? Republicans will bitch about democrats running up the bill, then the republicans will offer an "alternative," which really isn't an alternative. Guess what, no one is doing anything about it. Including, perhaps, you. Yes, it's BS; Yes, I would like to see it changed. Yes I agree that Obama is doing things that are crap, but to approach it with a chicken little mindset is ludicrous.

Do I see it? Yes, but I never voted for Obama, so it's sort of a mute ponit. Also, I'm not saying don't criticize him. I'm not saying he is infalliable. I'm saying...not everything is his fault. Congress with the republicans, and democrats; congress with it's "unbiased" judges, and all others...are also equal to it. Whether or not they did it, they're also guilty by complicity.

Right?

So, have you criticized a republican/conservative/fellow voter/judge today?

Be well, ~Alderic

P.S. You know, and this is going to sound seditious...but I honestly think we need a revolution. I just don't see this bullshit cycle changing any time soon, yet people complain about it...

The way I see it....his term was not supposed to end until roughly January 26th, of 2010. Yes, it does look like he was trying to get around the constitution, but was the coup that the military did justified or legal or constitutional? His term, by law/the constitution, was not over yet.

I think it would've been best for them to wait until his term wound to a close, and then made sure he vacated the office. All the while styming his efforst in the congress.

Simple enough really.

Be well, ~Alderic