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It seems that what many believed Google would eventually do is now set to be available before the end of the year. To follow in Google's attempt to offer a new way to browse the Internet, Google Chrome, Google is now ready to make available Google Chrome OS, an operating system meant to be simple, lightweight, fast and to better with web applications.

Personally I look forward to checking out this new OS. I'm curious to see just how plain, simple and clean it is. And of course, like Linux, Google claims it will make it as virus and spyware free as possible but us smart people know that even Apple and Linux are not immune to viruses or spyware and that all it takes is for a hacker to be interested enough, smart enough and dedicated enough to create them.

As the PC World article put it, not only has Google given MS something to keep an eye on when they took over online searching with Google.com, invaded Internet browsing with Google Chrome, taken a bit out of web apps with Google Maps, Google Calendar and others and make itself mobile with Google Android cell phone apps, now Google takes another shot at MS with Google Chrome OS. Now all we need is a Google based touch screen MP3 player (Google Pod?) and even Apple will start to watch Google more often.

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on Aug 10, 2009

No, it's not as far as the average consumer is concerned.  I seem to remember hearing how Linux would get all this huge market share after Vista, yeah, still waiting for that one.

 

on Aug 10, 2009

I wish it would.  I'm not a fan of Trusted Computing.  But if I can't play a game I want to play under *nix (which is common) at best I'm still left booting in and out of different OS sessions.  It's a hassle.

on Aug 10, 2009

The question shouldn't be "Is this or that OS better?" it should be "Is this OS the right one for me?"

Multiple choice answer, then;

a-) Properly supported

Improving constantly

c-) Compatible with everything

d-) Minimal but commonly accepted Standards

e-) None of the above.

Mine would fall right into the B slot for MS_DOS_95_98_CE_XP_Vista_7 for "Free" market dumping (don't start me on the latest "Buy American" gimmicks) reasons. The multi-tasking dream kept us awake long before hybrids started to take a stab at booting alternatives - you can dig a rig, but you can't change how it fails until something aims for the C slot.

Corporate goals prevent the D slot.

on Aug 10, 2009


The question shouldn't be "Is this or that OS better?" it should be "Is this OS the right one for me?"

If only we all could be as wise as this.

Google does not care about which platform they put their 'OS' on. Linux is just handy because all of the work is already done for them and it will cost little to place it onto a new computer.
What Google is all about is Cloud Computing. They want users to use the Internet for everything, to have an OS and applications totally independent from hardware. THIS is what Google is aiming at.
Linux vs Windows, you are dreaming. Its about Cloud vs Hardware.
And thats why the Google 'OS' will not take over Windows. Because Google don't care about the hardware and because Google wants it to run on Windows and every other device/OS which connects to the Internet.

 

[Edit] I have just found this on my RSS feeds.  An Operating System for the Cloud

on Aug 10, 2009

I define a Windows emulator as something like VMware

I think someone needs to REALLY educate themselves about that statement. That is THE single biggest crock I've seen in a LONG time.  VMWare is not a "Windows" emulator at all. It is a software driven HARDWARE emulator. It comes in different varieties to run it on, from Windows, Linux and the more advanced enterprise solution which it their own Linux kernel.

Get some salt for that foot, but then again I think you are probably quite used to the taste by now.

 

on Aug 10, 2009

Cloud computing, this would just give google greater acess to personal information...

on Aug 11, 2009

Yes Phoon I know that. I just used the wrong words in my post.

on Aug 11, 2009

Cloud computing, this would just give google greater acess to personal information...

Yes, it would, and users who go with the Chrome OS will be giving up control and access to everything to Google.  The way I'm reading it, Google is 'borrowing' the Linux kernel on which to base a browser based interface (rather than an OS as such) that supports Google apps that are based/stored on the web.

Now I see various issues with this idea... slow internet connections being one of them.  Storing and accessing that much data on the internet is going to be a major issue for those who have slow connections... dial-up and/or low-end DSL, etc, but more importantly, what about when one's internet connection is down???  A while back my ISP went down in my area and was off for about a week.... cloud computing and Google's proposed 'cloud based' OS would have been useless to me in that circumstance.

The other issue is privacy when one uses/depends on Google's cloud based storage???  Sure you have access to it (while you have an adequate internet connection) but so does Google... and how long before hackers learn how to get in as well.  Sure hackers have learned how to access data on harware based OSes/storage facilities, but we have firewalls, fire-walled routers and other security apps to help guard against that... combined with a bit of common sense... but how would one apply hardware based fire walls and security apps to a completely intangible cloud?

My biggest issue, however, is Google's well known practice of incorporating phone home abilities into its apps...google.analytics on a hardware based OS and independent browser would become a pussy cat and irrelvant, once you surrender ALL control to Google's 'cloud based' OS and built-in browser.  Google's primary source of income comes from advertising, and data mining users is its primary source of intel to target people with specific advertising, so this Google OS is not a "let's give the people something useful" kind of thing, but a profiteering opportunity for Google to spread its slimy data mining tentacles even farther.

Oh, and before anyone says that Google does not collect personally identifiable information and can't identify you or your IP address, etc, don't be so naive.  Google admitted that it knew the locations and identities of those persons in China who were accused of dissidency and internet wrong-doing... it just refused to hand over the data to the Chinese Gov't for fear of a huge financial backlash from Western businesses and users alike.

Yup, go with Google's cloud based OS/browser and you may as well send them a disc with your entire life history, prefences... likes and dislikes.

on Aug 11, 2009

I can't believe you talk all this stuff about how bad Google is with data collecting and data mining and phoning home when MS and Windows do the same thing.

Ignorance is bliss eh?

on Aug 11, 2009

I can't believe you talk all this stuff about how bad Google is with data collecting and data mining and phoning home when MS and Windows do the same thing.

you're probably correct on many levels. a cursory review of Bing's privacy policy sure does indicate that they collect data in order to provide a better web surfing experience for the user (NOT my words). there is also a statement directly related to targeted advertising. I would also assume that MS will make money from advertising from Bing. they also provide several options for opting out but then one would have to register in order to opt out, right???

I'm not registered with google or bing and a search for general services (plumbers, roofing, etc.) on each returned targeted ads from google and none from bing.

me thinks they both have their faults however MS does make a product while google whores data out. lesser of two evils, I gotta go with MS.

on Aug 11, 2009

Starkers, your last reply is addressed by the following quote too.  Internet speed = the hardware and responsiveness bullet.  Privacy concerns = the security bullet.

The thing is to be informed about what you use and none of the major players hide what they do or don't do with your data.  In the end, they don't take anything . . they are given it.

The OS is a tool to run apps.

* It should run the apps I use.
* It should support my hardware.
* It should meet my price range.
* It should be as secure as I need or want it to be.
* It should meet my level of expectations on responsiveness.

on Aug 11, 2009

kona0197
Ignorance is bliss eh?

Indeed.

You hooked modems, the cloud kept filling with thunder strikes -- the only thing missing is a giga_Tesla capacitor solid enough to "accumulate" such power spikes or divert the unforeseen consequences.

The gaping hole has a flaw, though; ISP monitoring & their precious consumers gathering speed or producing counter-measures such as grounded but conductive walls.

on Aug 11, 2009

In the end, they don't take anything . . they are given it.

Not by me... I have NO Google products/services on my PC and I have entered into NO agreements with them, yet Google monitors my internet movements etc via google-analytics. Up until I implemented AdBlock Plus and NoScript to block google analytics and Google ads, I got ads based on my locale and internet interests, etc... meaning Google knows my location and what are my preferences/interests, etc.  I don't want to see ads... period, and I certainly don't want Google knowing stuff about me so as to profit from targetted ads based on my internet activities.  Google can go and get... you know.

I give the bastards nothing and never will... which is why I point blank refuse to use any of their products/services requiring the acceptance of A EULA that states one must agree to the mining of data.... and anyone with any sense would refuse to also.

Sure Google has a search engine that produces results... but at what cost to the end user, particularly if they use the phone home browser toolbar?  And it's no use saying Google does not collect personally identifiable information, cos history can prove otherwise: for example, Google having the 'dirt' on those Chinese 'dissidents... it also provided law enforcement with details on people who were searching for and dealing with kiddie porn.  Now while that is a good thing in itself, how long before Google drops the "do no evil" thing and sells out to the highest bidder when it comes to your data?? 

You may not have anything criminal to hide, but there are so many ways your 'innocent' information can be exploited to your disadvantage.  Nope, there is no way on Earth I'll show blind faith in a company that's designed purely to profit from advertising and information gathering... but if you want to place your trust in them, be my guest.

The bottom line here is that Googe does everything with profit in mind... meaning all its 'so-called' free apps are geared to generate profit in one way or another from its users.  NOT on my PC... NOT on my watch!!!

 

on Aug 11, 2009

I give the bastards nothing and never will
Any time you do any thing on teh internet you are publicly giving information.  It is a *network* of computers and you are reading and writing data everytime you load a page.  By definition you have to pass data and provide data.

A person can draw whatever line they want and say "I won't cross this" but you are kidding yourself if you think you are not spraying yoru digital seed all over hither and yon. 

on Aug 12, 2009

Any time you do any thing on teh internet you are publicly giving information. It is a *network* of computers and you are reading and writing data everytime you load a page. By definition you have to pass data and provide data.

I realise that... every time I log in and post on WC I gather and disseminate data, for example.  However, you miss my point!  It is Google I dislike and speak of here... and I willingly give them nothing.  I block Google at every opportunity because I see it as a scavenging parasite, so anything they have on me they have taken...

BTW: I was not able to find that link to a Google page on me (spoken of in another thread)... it's like looking for a needle in a haystack when I don't recall which thread I saw it.

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