We all knew it was going to happen anyway, it was inevitable, so the point of whether or not the stimulus package should or should not have happened is mute. I think the biggest problem with the stimulus is that they didn't set any rules for it; It should've been set up more like a loan, assuming throwing money at it solved the problem. (I question whether it is throwing the money, or the money being spent erroneously that is causing the problem. It seems even the states are pissing it away)

If they are going to take the money, then, unfortunately but ultimately I think it is necessary for the short term, make the states use it to create jobs/increase production - not fill in the budget.

Yeah, I know, I'm big about small government - but sometimes you have to work with what you have and I don't see the government getting smaller any time soon. I mean, I travel around my town and see stores and plants closed down. Why arn't we opening them up again?

Good grief.

Be well, ~Alderic

It doesn't matter if rules were set or not, the stimulus package was a farce.  I thought Joe Biden was supposed to be overseeing it anyways. 

The real point here is Obama is full of it.  One term please!

Though I agree that the stimulus was a head scratching decision - it actually it does matter in my opinion because if you loan someone money without setting the terms - then they will tend to mess around with it.  I'm not going to just give someone money to piss away. I would expect them to realize it as a loan, and that they wouldn't spend it on things like porno and such, as well as they promise to pay me back.

Change

Two cents?How about his much:

This is change I can see.

Be well, ~Alderic

Judging from polls, the American people are starting to wake up to the fact that they leaped from the frying pan with Bush and into the fire with Obama. Just look at the polling. In the immortal words of ultra liberal Bob Dylan [insert nasally tone here] "oh the times they are a changin."

Perhaps, I don't know anthonyr, and to claim otherwise seems to be a bit like jumping the gun.

Hey now, don't you go dissing The Man, his music rocks. Ironically, it is part of the very foundation of our country.

You know what's stupid is that I knew the bailout would fail the day it was passed.  Anyone who knows me also heard me predict that the auto companies would fail anyway, and that the housing bubble would still burst.

Biden thinks they messed up with the bailout, eh?  No kidding.  The smart thing to do would be to just let people and companies pay for their financial mistakes.  The ride down would be steep, but it would be all uphill from there.  Instead we're prolonging the inevitable.

every one of the problems our economy is currently facing has been directly caused by the government passing bad laws.

Is this lying or just being wrong?

Well lets see, you take a plan that has already been done by other people (Japan and Bush) and has failed before and you implement it in the hopes it works for you. Yea, I would say this is lying. Dude, first off 2+2=4 no matter how you add it up, repeating the same mistake will not eventually yield different results. Obama was warned of many of the things he's done but he did it anyways. They knew; they knew but didn't care.

Obama promised a better Gov't, no politics as usual yet time and again politicians have admitted to not reading any of the recent bills being passed or that were passed thru the Houses since Obama took over. And they have the balls to laugh at us when asked if they read these bills? How is this change? How is this not politics as usual? How is this not lying?

I was not trying to be clever.  It was a geniue question.

And I gave a geniue answer and my reasons for it. I can't help being a bit upset over the fact that all the BS about Bush being evil, bad for this country, a liar and the man responsible for our current situation but now it's all OK only because it's Obama doing it; a Democrat, a Black man, a Minority, not Bush or all of the above.

Oh come Charles, it's expedited politics; they're now actually getting things done! [/sarcasm]

Be well, ~Alderic

Obama must just be lying to US citizens. He just finished telling Africans how bad it is for corupt governments to "skim 29% of the top"... "that is not democracy that is tyranny". Now what is the highest US tax rates that the government "skims" off the top again???