You don't like this sort of political bullshit, you complain about it left and right...so....why...why...do you help perpetuate it?

You crack me up, AJ.

In order for me to believe that good exist I have to acknowledge that evil also exist. In order for me to voice my dislike about something, I have no choice but to point it out in order to do so. In order for me to make my point I sometimes have to become that which I criticize. In order to make a difference i this world I have to be willing to make sacrifices.

Regardless how much anyone wants to believe that we should do everything within our power to do the right thing in order to achieve the end results we want, sometimes we gotta be the bad guys as well to achieve the same end results.

The poster found in LA, looks to me more like its from "Dead Presidents" (the movie) than it does the joker.  Heh, maybe it's just me?

Well then I applaud you in a way, because I can't become what I criticize. It just...the chaos, disorder, mindlessness...i can't be something that i honestly think could one day destroy us. Ever see the movie idiocracy?

In what way? Hopefully an entirely positive way.

Actually I have and although it was meant to be comedy I couldnt help but notice so many similarities to how things are today compared to what lead to the future the soldier and the hooker found themselves in.

Sometimes you have to lower yourself to other peoples levels in order to give them a taste of their own medicine and so that they too can see what it's like to be on the receiving end. Democrats are currently feeling to pain of the constant questioning of their actions just like they did with Bush for 8 years. It's always different when the shoe is on the other foot, except Bush wasn't telling people to shut up and move out of the way.

dunno how i coulda missed it in that case.  i'll keep an eye out tho. 

two possibilities come to mind:

1. writers--even those at vanity fair--rarely slam their own work especially prior to publication.

2. it looks nothing at all like george bush so why bother?

a matter of how much time? think they'll run him down tomorrow? next week? 2012? all of the above? 

you're givin yourself a lotta wiggle room chaz.  after all, 'it's only a matter of time' before everything and anything happens...men fly through the air, men fly to the moon, george bush finally gets everything he deserves, and so on.

be more specific dammit.

I still disagree; I could never do it because it's against my principles to become what I disagree with.

Mhm, it's a very...enlightening.

He'll (she'll?) soon replace OBL on the Most Wanted List (if he hasn't already).

Why do you say that?

Sorry, but I just don't buy this line of thought.

Altogether, now... Joke(r).

The Dept. of Homeland Sec. is following Tea Party organizers on Twitter, Facebook, etc., and monitoring their websites; the Obama cadre has a website where people can report on friends and family who strongly disapprove or express distrust of, Obama's Health care policies.

Three policemen have been disciplined for using dept. resources to run background checks on Obama; the Obama campaign and administration have an ongoing history of harrassing and ostracizing reporters who write negative stories about Obama.

The administration is calling upon union and ACORN thugs to keep informed protestors out of Town Hall meetings. The Dems find this embarrassing and disconcerting, when standard talking points and propaganda don't work, because the passionate constituents know more about the health care bill than their legislative representatives.

And what, exactly, does George Bush "deserve", after 8 years of complete security against the savages who want to kill us, an over unemployment rate of 4.7% and, right up til the last few months of his admin., a steadily-growing economy?

Your reply to this is lame KB, I expected better from you. Then again, as a defender of Obama and the Democrats, maybe this is to be expected.

Another lame attempt at turning my comments against myself. A matter of time obviously means when ever it happens but it will. But, again, I can't really expect a decent debate from people who claim to want to unite the country but do everything within their power to maintain the status quo of seperation.

Rightwingers response says it all.

First off, it's the Dept. of Homeland Security's job to moniter/deal ANY suspicious activities. If they're not keeping tabs on people they reasonably think could commit terrorist acts - then they're not doing the fucking job. No bueno.

Second, and I reiterate my belief - there is no solid factual evidence to support that they Obama and his crew are going to round anyone up, tap their phone lines, do away with dissenters, etc. (Solid evidence = official memos, hand written correspondence, et al.) I get the being cautious; I get that and even agree with it, but there's a line where caution and wisdom turn into fear and paranoia. I seriously feel that some people have crossed it.

Proof?

I'm curious, how many people here have read the official bill? (At least the most recent incarnation)

Be well, ~Alderic