The World Thru My Eyes - I speak my mind and man does it like to talk.

I own 2 games I bought thru the Steam client, Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2. While I have not dedicated much time to Bad Company 2 at this time, it’s a shame it will be the last game I ever buy on Steam. Not necessarily because of Bad Company 2, to be honest, it’s not necessarily because of Modern Warfare 2 either although it is in part.

Last night (like almost every other night) I was playing with my Clan friends online. We have been playing Modern Warfare 2 for quite some time now, it’s the game of choices at the moment. Here’s the thing about Modern Warfare 2, it’s the game you hate to love and love to hate. Had it not been for the lack of dedicated servers, the useless and horribly designed IWNet and the can’t_catch_a_hacker_to_save_its_life_if_it_had_one VAC system, Modern Warfare 2 could have been one of the best Call Of Duty’s to date. I like the game itself, all the new perks, the killstreak rewards, the new maps. The game is actually fun. Until you get kicked from the server.

When ever I play the other Call Of Duty games, the only waiting time I get is the time it takes to load the next map or if I’m on a modded server first the first time I have to download several files and maps. But normally I go from map to map with the same people with only Punkbuster to be dumb enough to kick me. Basically, playing on dedicated servers can be seamless most of the time and hackers are usually dealt with pretty quickly and usually permanently.

Modern Warfare 2? I spend more time in the game lobby some days than I do in games. The most common connection errors? “Unable to migrate host”, “server disconnected”, and my favorite “Steam disconnected”, all of them happen during game play. There are times when we try to enter a game 3 to 4 times before we finally start a game. Not to mention when ever we go in as a group, someone always gets kicked during the process of entering games forcing us to back up to pick them up and try again. Combine all of this with the enormous amount of hackers on Modern Warfare 2 (can hardly find a server that doesn’t have one) and while I can’t stay away from the game because the game itself is fun, when it works, I wish I could just delete it and shove it up Infinity Wards ass.

The next Call Of Duty version is coming in November, called Black Ops, it’s being created by Treyarch. Although Treyarch does not have a great reputation when it comes to Call Of Duty (World At War was not exactly that great though was fun most of the time) with the exception of the Zombie mode in World At War which was an interesting addition to the game, we hope they take advantage of Infinity Wards complete disregard for PC gamers and give us a game that could rival Modern Warfare 2. Of course odds are they’re more likely to throw a rehashed version of World At War to us but we can still hope for the best. We already know it will have dedicated servers so that’s a plus for me. Lets just hope it’s not as dull as Battlefield Bad Company 2.

Steam will only remain on my PC because of the fact that it’s the only way for me to play Modern Warfare 2 and Bad Company 2 but otherwise, never again will I buy from Steam as I am tired of not being able to play my games just because Steam decides to AWOL on me from time to time.

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on May 28, 2010

KickACrip

Orvi - What game are you talking about, and when was the last time it was down?  The only reply I have is - you guys seems to be getting much more disconnects that I did.  Like I said, I haven't played a multiplayer game in a few weeks, but a d/c wasn't something regularly that happened to me.  Try Steam customer service if you need to, when I used them in the past they were very good.

 

MW2 was more or less guaranteed (Is that spelled right? It seems right, tells me it's not) to be a black sheep/red-headed stepchild/half-breed on PC. I agree on this point.

 

The point I'm trying to make is, Steamworks is a pain at times.

 

I had three separate occasions in the space of an hour while playing Dawn of War 2: Chaos Rising on Steam, where the Steam servers went down and I couldn't get back into Last Stand, with two people I was on Ventrilo with. The last time it was down was for about 20 minutes three days ago.

I'd have to scrabble through my games list, but there are several games (at least) that have this problem. Team Fortress 2 tends to be a major offender in the idea. If your server can't connect to their server (for a multitude of reasons, not just Steamworks failing) you can't use ANYTHING you have earned. This generally requires a server restart to fix.

Another problem Steam has had for a long time is "This game is currently unavailable" I have no clue what causes this. I have no clue what the exact problem is that this infers. How is the game not available if I have it downloaded and was playing it an hour ago? This is guaranteed to happen to me once a week, for several hours. It's entirely random, which game I lose access to. On two occasions, I lost access to my entire Steam library for a period of 2 and 4 hours respectively.

 

I defended Steam a bit sidelong in the Civ 5 topic. I don't see the major problem with the service itself. It works 8/10 and that's good enough for me. I do see what people are talking about when it comes to 'closed platform' gaming. If your game is going to use Steam and nothing else, be damned sure it doesn't prevent you from playing the game every couple hours.

Which, is what is happening to Charles.

on May 28, 2010

It sounds like you are having issues more with the Games themselves than Steam. I am not defending Steam but most of what you stated doesnt lead me to believe theses are Steam issues. I think there are much worse things out there than steam, having said that I like Stardock and Impulse much better. I use Steam becuase there isnt many alternatives out there and it has a large user base.

on May 28, 2010

CharlesCS: the issues you describe are issues of the game, not Steam. Except the "Steam disconnected" thing, which can happen from time to time, but should be very rare. At least compared to the other issues.

on May 28, 2010

It sounds like you are having issues more with the Games themselves than Steam. I am not defending Steam but most of what you stated doesnt lead me to believe theses are Steam issues. I think there are much worse things out there than steam, having said that I like Stardock and Impulse much better. I use Steam becuase there isnt many alternatives out there and it has a large user base.

I don't know about you but to think that the problems he may have are game related and not necessarily Steam does not make sense. Why? Simple, what are the odds of several different games having similar issues and the one thing they all have in common is Steam? Considering the msg I get clearly says "Steam disconnected" I can't bring myself to think it's the game itself.

CharlesCS: the issues you describe are issues of the game, not Steam. Except the "Steam disconnected" thing, which can happen from time to time, but should be very rare. At least compared to the other issues.

That is pretty much what I said in my article, except in this case MW2 is connected directly to Steam. But the fact that Steam randomly goes down for long periods of time at least 2 times a week for me (during my gaming hours) is not a feature I would expect from something like Steam. I will wait till Black Ops comes out but will not get it thru Steam, instead i will get it thru Impulse if they get it. Give Impulse a chance to see how it works.

on May 29, 2010

CharlesCS


That is pretty much what I said in my article, except in this case MW2 is connected directly to Steam. But the fact that Steam randomly goes down for long periods of time at least 2 times a week for me (during my gaming hours) is not a feature I would expect from something like Steam. I will wait till Black Ops comes out but will not get it thru Steam, instead i will get it thru Impulse if they get it. Give Impulse a chance to see how it works.

I am not sure what you mean about Impulse. If it Black Ops has Steamworks, it's not going to be sold on Impulse. If it doesn't have Steamworks, it's going to use some other connection type service which would have nothind to do with Impulse. Feel free to correct me on these points, but I've yet to see Impulse do anything like host or connect players outside of maybe SD's own games maybe.

on May 29, 2010

but I've yet to see Impulse do anything like host or connect players outside of maybe SD's own games maybe.

Logic since that kind of functionnality is in Impulse::reactor, which won't be available to other developpers until late summer. And Stardock's Elemental will be the first game to use Impulse::reactor feature.

on May 29, 2010

Peace Phoenix

but I've yet to see Impulse do anything like host or connect players outside of maybe SD's own games maybe.


Logic since that kind of functionnality is in Impulse::reactor, which won't be available to other developpers until late summer. And Stardock's Elemental will be the first game to use Impulse::reactor feature.

Well that's what I thought, but the Charles is either referring to something else, or is mistaken in what he thinks Impulse does (aka, it's not another Steam with a new skin).

on Jun 03, 2010

I am not sure what you mean about Impulse. If it Black Ops has Steamworks, it's not going to be sold on Impulse. If it doesn't have Steamworks, it's going to use some other connection type service which would have nothind to do with Impulse. Feel free to correct me on these points, but I've yet to see Impulse do anything like host or connect players outside of maybe SD's own games maybe.

My assumption is that Black Ops will be like World At War in that you can just either download it or buy the CD (DVD), install it and play it without any concern over something like Steam. If so then a client like Impulse can sell the program just like it does the other Call Of Duty games. I believe it will have dedicated servers so that's a plus right there.

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