Oh please, next they will want to take the star of David off the one dollar bill.

on the back of the one dollar bill are the 13 five pointed stars placed about the eagle formed into the star of David. This was done to honor the banker that helped finnance the revolution. George Washington asked what he could do to honor the man and he replyed that America in some form remember the Jewish people that helped. The Star of David was placed on the one dollar bill to let Jews know that we remember them and respect them. Bet you racist liberals didn't know that.

In God we trust, all others pay cash!

liberals tend to hate jews, jews are successful and powerful which means they must be evil.

Yup, I'm a racist bastard; deal with it. Not like I've dated and was engaged to marry a Jewish woman, or that one of my best friends is Jewish, or that I have a great deal of respect (and healthy skepticism/disagreement toward) for a local Rabbi; my grandfather.

Nope, I'm just some racist, anti-christian, nazi.

As for that story:

1. The star of david has six points, not five. -- Fact You would think that if a Jewish man wanted to do as you said, he would know the Star of David, and get it right.

2. The "financer of the revolution" was Robert Morris, who mind you, was not Jewish; however, I will conced that perhaps Mr. Morris did indeed ask Washington that, but he certainly wasn't Jewish - he was Episcopalian. Haym solomon was instrumental in helping finance the war, but he wasn't as you say, "Financer of the revolution."

BTW,here is what Washington said about Jews," They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in ... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pests to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."

(GEORGE WASHINGTON, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.)

3. It's interesting to note that the current edition, in its current design, (for want of a term) came out in 1957 . -- Fact.

~Alderic

Addendum:

"The first $1 notes (called United States Notes or "Legal Tenders") were issued by the Federal Government in 1862 and featured a portrait of Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase (1861-1864)."

(National Treasury - Bureau of Engraving and Printing: http://www.moneyfactory.gov/document.cfm/18/2230  )

Thanks Paladin77..

From the book, "Symbols of a Nation", I found the following....that the constellation of 13 stars formed into one reinforces the motto E.Pluribus Unum...breaking through a divine radiance it denotes a new nation taking its place and rank among others.

From the same book, with regard to famous great seal, and regard to the Jewish people, it states:

Over a period of 6 years 3 separate committees tried to come up with an acceptable design for the Great Seal of the US, the national coat of arms that was needed in order to authenticate official documents. The first committee--Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and John Adams....turned to the Bible and to classical mythology for inspiration. Jefferson proposed that the seal depict the Isrealites' passage through the wilderness, led by a divine cloud and a pillar of fire. Adams suggested the mythical Hercules choosing between the paths of virtue and self-indulgence. Franklin wanted to show Moses commanding the Red Sea to close over the pharaoh.   

In a quandry, they called in a consultant, a Swiss born Philiadelphia artist who pointed out the greatest thing about the US is that it was a new nation forged out of many. His design featured a shield and around the shield were 13 smaller ones representing the new states.

There were two other designs offered, one with the majestic eagle, symbol of power, bearing a shield with 13 stripes and all three were given to Charles Thompson, secretary of Congress who ended up retaining something from each of the three designs and he's the one who came up with what we see now.

Alderic,

As soon as I read Paladin's comment...I checked out my one dollar bill and can see 6 points on it. So calm down and look again. It's truly a six pointed star...

CIKOMYR POSTS #34

kfc posts:

Yes, absolutely...This is the crux of the matter and what the Jewish prophets prophecied....The one true God was manifested in the flesh (Incarnation) to redeem mankind.

Here is a quote from an priest who was teaching on this very subject....

Whatever may be the connotations of “Allah” for those who have been raised in an Arabic culture, everywhere else on earth the term “Allah” refers very specifically to the Muslim deity. And the Muslim conception of God differs greatly from that held by Christians. The change in terminology would inevitably both signal and foster a change in belief.

The conception of God referred to by the name “Allah” is not Trinitarian. There is no Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Nor is this Allah incarnational. There is no Jesus Christ, true God and true Man. Nor has Allah revealed the deep connection of suffering with redemptive love, let alone acted upon that understanding. Allah has not taught us the way of the Cross. Rather, there is every evidence that he rejects it. In every other language but Arabic, “Allah” does not mean what Christians mean when they speak God’s name.

A distinction, of course, is in order. We can recognize that when a Muslim prays to “Allah”, he is praying to the only God there is, however imperfect his understanding. ....But we cannot take a word now universally used to describe the Muslim conception of God and use it as our own. For us, this would be a betrayal. The only friends this would win would be those eager to see us deny Christ.

Instead of obscuring our witness to the distinctiveness of the Christian God, let’s stop witnessing to secularism, materialism and hedonism. Let’s stop our self-indulgence and our failure to stand for truth. We’re far more likely to win the approval of Muslims if we do, and we’ll certainly win God’s approval, which is all that really matters, through Jesus Christ Our Lord

LEAUKI POSTS #42

That's exactly what KFC did....The Jewish concept of God comes from Jewish Scripture and Moses as well as the OT prophets, prophecied the coming of the Messias which Christ Who is God made man fulfilled in every minute detail. Those Scriptural passages were all pointed out to you in a different thread.

The Islamic and Bahai concept of God do not fit with the OT Jewish Scripture or prophecies one iota but they most suburbly do with the Christian concept of God.  

LEAUKI POSTS:

This may be true of modern Judaism but it's not of Biblical Judaism. Biblical Judaism is full blossomed in Christianity.

Biblical Judaism and "modern Judaism" and Islam see G-d in the same way.

Biblical Judaism was, if anything, even more opposed to icons, pictures of gods, and praying to a corporeal god than modern Judaism.

No, that's not what she did.

She attempted to compare Islam's god with Christianity's god, saw that there are differences between the two and concluded that hence Islam's god must be different from Judaism's god.

That's a logical fallacy because it doesn't establish that Judaism's and Christianity's god are the same.

Never mind that she doesn't know Judaism's view of god well or Islam's view of god at all. A few months ago she still thought that Islam's god was the Moon.

It's well known Leauki going back thru history this is where it all started.  Sure they don't go out and worship the moon today but they do have a reminder of it by having a cresent as their symbol.  For every effect there is a cause.  This came from somewhere.

According to the 2001 National Geographic on this subject....

"Abraham may have worshipped Sin, the god of the moon and Ur's cheif deity.  Mesopotamians worshiped a pantheon of deities, including ones like Sin, but each person also had an additional personal god." 

We all know that Ur also known as Mesopotamia is modern day Iraq.  There was discussion on whether or not Abraham's reflections on the moon god had led him to the idea that the world is governed by one God. 

Now is it a coincidence that this chief deity, a moon god, was worshipped in the heart of where Islam is centered today?  I don't think so especially considering their half moon symbol. 

We know that Islam traces its heritage back to Abraham's son Ishmael, not Isaac (Jewish) and from what I understand Allah was considered  a one time a moon god. 

What is strange is that on all of mine there are five points, and in other sources I've read state that the star is five pointed.Maybe someone somewhere had a major glitch, but that's what I had to work with.

Could you provide a direct quote? Because I keep reading that Thomson (not Thompson) was the principle designer of the great seal, not the entire design.

~Alderic

The stars are 5 pointed, but they create a 6 pointed star in formation.  However, I have a feeling that it has more to do with the Freemason's designing the bill than it has to do with any Jewish roots. 

That's what I thought; the five points and then the six pointed star. Still though, if you look at it you really can sort of make out anything you wish, within reason.

~Alderic

is there any documentation of the "jewish friend" which wanted the jews to be respected in such an obscure hidden manner (its not even a SOLID star of david... which btw is not even the symbol of jewdaism outside of holliwood.. it is the symbol of ISRAEL but that is a different story)

Also, do two wrongs make a right? a bunch of religious allusions on bill... well actually they can remain, its so full of weird symbolisms, allusions to hidden societies, etc... its kinda cool actually as a historical thing.

The pledge of alligience is a different manner though, you are required to pledge it in elementry school, you are required to pledge it when becoming a citizen... and also, why are you required to swear over a christian bible in court?

good question and while you're at it maybe you can answer this one...."why do they open the Senate in Prayer?" 

that is a good question kfc but i dont think you were being sarcastic... swearing over a bible makes no sense at all because you have no idea if the person is actually chrisitan... and if you did, or if they refused, then it creates an environment of religious tension. Starting a court case by asking the witnesses to either lie about being christian or make a fuss about being a different religion that the jury is not a wise thing.